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Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 5 months ago #3779

There are always a lot of questions regarding wheel / tire / rim sizes.
If you all can help with diameter and any special feature, we can make a list going into The DataBase.

Please use this type of format:

Model number & description
Front tire D/width/rim D/width - Rim/tire interface type (tire #, rim #)
Rear tire D/width/rim D/width - Rim/tire interface type (tire #, rim #)
Other particularities


Diameter (D) is measured to the outer pin/spike/etc. Rim diameter as shown below and width also to the outer edges.

Example:

58100 Top Force
Front 86mm/30mm/60mm/29mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53092, rim 53089)
Rear 86mm/39mm/60mm/35mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53093, rim 53086)
53088 replaces 53092, 53084 replaces 53093, wheels have 12mm hexagonal adapters





-Lars
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Last edit: by Edou. Reason: New parameters

Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 5 months ago #3783

I'll use this post to gather all the data together. :cheer:
Dimensions in between (..) are provisional.
Cars marked with *** need additional info or a second opinion.

If you can - please help out! :)
Most valuable info is the actual measurements...
Parts numbers and other details can always be added later. ;)

58001 Porsche 934 ***
Front 48,5mm/32mm/(34,4mm)/?
Rear 51mm/29,3mm/(34,4mm)/?
58016 Sand Scorcher ***
Front 73mm/21mm/40mm/? 3 piece rim (50121) (tyre 9805033, rim 0555066)
Rear 82mm/41mm/38mm/? 3 piece rim (50122) (tyre 9805081, rim 0555067)
Second listing for tyre and rim is 58452 Sand Scorcher replacement, bolts 9805556, nuts 9804230
58043 Grasshopper ***
Front 73mm/21mm/40mm/? 3 piece rim (50121) (tyre 9805033, rim 0555066)
Rear 82mm/41mm/38mm/? 3 piece rim (50122) (tyre 9805081, rim 0555067)
Second listing for tyre and rim is 58452 Sand Scorcher replacement, bolts 9805556, nuts 9804230
58044 Mitsubishi Pajero
58045 Hornet
58046 Fast Attack Vehicle
58047 Hotshot
58048 Bruiser ***
Front 121,5mm/61mm/(55mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim
Rear 121,5mm/61mm/(55mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim
58049 Toyota Tom's 84C
58050 Wild One
58051 Fox
58052 Newman Porsche 956
58053 Road Wizard
58054 Super Shot
58055 Boomerang
58056 Falcon
58057 Bigwig
58058 Blackfoot
58059 Porsche 959
58060 Monster Beetle
58061 Striker
58062 Hotshot II
58063 Lunchbox
58064 Toyota Celica Gr.B
58065 Clod Buster
58066 Super Sabre
58067 Thunder Shot
58068 Lotus Honda 99T
58069 Williams FW11B Honda
58070 Midnight Pumpkin
58071 Sonic Fighter
58072 Avante ***
Front 89mm/38mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50271, rim 50347)
Rear 89mm/38mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50271, rim 50347)
58073 Thunder Dragon
58074 Grasshopper II
58075 Terra Scorcher
58076 Vanquish ***
Front 89mm/29mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50270, rim 53005)
Rear 89mm/38mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50271, rim 53006)
58077 Mud Blaster
58078 Fire Dragon
58079 Egress ***
Front 88mm/31mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53039, rim 53040)
Rear 88mm/39mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53049, rim 53050)
58080 Astute
58081 Nissan King Cab
58082 Madcap
58083 Saint Dragon
58084 Ferrari F189 ***
Front (44mm/30mm/?/?) - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50389, rim 50386)
Rear (36mm/45mm/?/?) - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50390, rim 50386)
58085 Avante 2001 ***
Front 83mm/39mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53059, rim 9335080)
Rear 83mm/39mm/(51mm)/? - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53059, rim 9335080)
58086 Toyota Hi-lux Monster Racer
58087 Manta Ray
Front 84mm/38mm/57mm/34mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53059, rim 0335102)
Rear 84mm/38mm/57mm/34mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53059, rim 0335102)
Wheels have 12mm hexagonal adapters
58088 Sauber Mercedes C11
Front 64mm/(28mm)/44mm/30mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50397, rim 50399)
Rear 65mm/45mm/44mm/45mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50398, rim 50399)
58089 Bullhead ***
Front (165mm/107mm/74mm/94mm) (tyre 6205030, rim 0445154)
Rear (165mm/107mm/74mm/94mm) (tyre 6205030, rim 0445154)
9805226 replaces 6205030, 0555026 replaces 0445154
58090 Tyrell 019 Ford ***
Front (44mm/30mm/?/?) - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50389, rim 50386)
Rear (36mm/45mm/?/?) - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50390, rim 50386)
58091 Nissan 300 ZX
Front 64mm/(28mm)/44mm/30mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50397, rim 50399)
Rear 65mm/45mm/44mm/45mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50398, rim 50399)
9335088 replaces 50399
58092 Jaguar XJR-12
Front 64mm/(28mm)/44mm/30mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50397, rim 50404)
Rear 65mm/45mm/44mm/45mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50398, rim 50404)
58093 Bear Hawk ***
Front ?/?/53mm/19mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53048, rim 0335117)
Rear 84mm/38mm/57mm/34mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53059, rim 0335102)
58094 Honda NSX
Front 64mm/(32mm)/44mm/30mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50415, rim 50399)
Rear 65mm/45mm/44mm/45mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50398, rim 50399)
Wheels have hub caps - check manual for details
58095 Lotus 102B Judd ***
Front (44mm/30mm/?/?) - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50389, rim 50386)
Rear (36mm/45mm/?/?) - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50390, rim 50386)
58096 Toyota Celica GT-4
Front 64mm/26mm/52mm/26mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50419, rim 50420)
Rear 64mm/26mm/52mm/26mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50419, rim 50420)
Hub caps (F parts) 0005403, separate wheels 9335093
58097 Super Astute
Front 82mm/20mm/60mm/20mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53083, rim 53085)
Rear 86mm/39mm/60mm/35mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53084, rim 53086)
9805617 replaces 58083, 0445167 replaces 58085
58098 Ferrari F40
Front 64mm/(32mm)/44mm/30mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50415, rim 50426)
Rear 65mm/45mm/44mm/45mm - tyre glued to smooth rim with double sided tape (tyre 50398, rim 50426)
58099 Skyline GT-R Nismo
Front 64mm/26mm/52mm/26mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50419, rim 50432)
Rear 64mm/26mm/52mm/26mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 50419, rim 50432)
58100 Top Force
Front 86mm/30mm/60mm/29mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53092, rim 53089)
Rear 86mm/39mm/60mm/35mm - tyre glued to grooves in rim (tyre 53093, rim 53086)
53088 replaces 53092, 53084 replaces 53093, wheels have 12mm hexagonal adapters

The thread has been partly rewritten. Note that Lars' next post has a different order of parameters.

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Last edit: by Edou.

Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 5 months ago #3866

More tyre data:
Note: Outer diameter measured to the outer pin/spike/etc, and inner diameter measured to the inner glue surface.

58048 Bruiser - 121,5mm/55mm/61mm - 121,5mm/55mm/61mm - tyre glued to groves in rim.
58072 Avante - 89mm/51mm/38mm - 89mm/51mm/38mm - tyre glued to groves in rim (part no 5271)
58076 Vanquish - 89mm/51mm/29mm - 89mm/51mm/38mm - tyre glued to groves in rim (Front part no 5270, rear 5271)
58079 Egress - 88mm/51mm/31mm - 88mm/51mm/39mm - tyre glued to groves in rim (Front part no 53039, rear 53040)
58081 Avante 2001: 83mm/51mm/39mm - 83mm/51mm/39mm - tyre glued to groves in rim (part no 53059)

More coming...

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Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5156

Here's a question for you clever guys. The Super Hornet front rims and tires are 80mm/60mm/20mm. The tires say "Super Gripper Racing" on them. What are the modern replacements? I would like to see if I can get new tires, even if y=they are not true to the period of the Super Hornet.

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Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5158

This is what I found so far:

Tamiya USA:
Front
www.tamiyausa.c...t-id=51207

Rear
www.tamiyausa.c...t-id=53059


TowerHobbies
Rear
www3.towerhobbi...LXGD99&P=7

Both Tamiya USA and Towerhobbies say the part number is 53059.


This is a Pair of Wide Studded Spike Tires For Tamiya Vehicles.

FEATURES: Features studded spikes for optimum traction in loose dirt.


INCLUDES: Includes two spiked buggy tires.


REQUIRES: Requires a two inch rim.


SPECS: 1-1/2"x2"(38mmx50mm)


COMMENTS: These tires will fit the following Tamiya off-road buggies:
Dirt Thrasher- front and rear tires
Manta Ray- front and rear tires
Mad Fighter- rear tires only

No technical info on the fronts though.

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Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5159

I think the rear tyres (Manta Ray) are the correct (official) spare part.
For the front the closest match would be Tamiya 9805474 (Super Hornet) - or possible the 9805617 for the Dyna Storm.
These are both 82mm diameter and 20mm wide - plus they both have spikes.

The front tyres you linked to are 79mm (D) and 26mm (W).
Normally for a DT-02 but I think you'd probably manage to fit these on the rim also.

:)

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Last edit: by Edou.

Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5255

I rewrote the thread with the parameters a bit different.
The specs on the rims could be worthwhile info. :cheer:
Data that was in the first post before (OD tyre/ID tyre/width) :

58001 Porsche 934
Front 48,5mm/34,4mm/32mm
Rear 51mm/34,4mm/29,3mm

A bit blasphemous of me to use an Imex rim (for Traxxas) for the last pic. :lol:
I'll see what I can do about that... :whistle:

Any suggestions for further improvement are naturally welcome. :)

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Last edit: by Edou.

Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5294

A bit blasphemous of me to use an Imex rim (for Traxxas) in the first post. :lol:
I'll see what I can do about that... :whistle:


Naughty naughty, This is a vintage Tamiya thread... :P

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Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5300

They'll be going on a vintage Tamiya so that makes it a little bit alright I guess. :whistle:
Hopefully with some awesome on road rubber :



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Re: Help me with tire / rim sizes! 12 years 3 months ago #5301

Nice...

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